Vanessa: It's so amusing. Why is this the most important story in the world? Why don't they just write, "The president gets a blow job."
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G21: Why do you think you've become so popular again?
Vanessa: I don't have any idea. Whenever I meet people they tell me how much they love me and my movies. The men are usually really shy and don't know what to say, but the women are always nice and supportive. Especially Black women. They're the first one to say, "You go, girl!"
G21: You were one of the few women of color to make it big in porn. Did you ever experience any sort of discrimination in terms of roles you didn't get or being paid as much as the White women in the business?
Vanessa: Hmmm, I really can't say I remember any racism. My audience is across the board and I have a huge Black following. I won a lifetime achievement award at the Black Adult Entertainment Awards from De'Unique magazine. I don't consider myself a pioneer. I was just someone in the business.
G21: You say men don't know how to approach you. They've seen you in films and on stage when you were dancing. Why are they afraid to approach you?
Vanessa: They're intimidated by my image. Men always seemed to want to impress Vanessa Del Rio, the image instead of the person. Does that make sense? It's tough being in the sex business and meeting someone. They often have their own agenda of what to expect, so it's not a pure connection.
G21: Are men put off by your past in porn movies?
Vanessa: For some it's a attraction. They think that all it's gonna be is sex, sex, sex. If I meet someone who doesn't know who I am they're going to find out. It's part of the deal and some men can't deal with it.
G21: I'm certain there are some people that want to condemn you for your past.
Vanessa: I went to Catholic school for eight years. We had a priest try to explain the birds and bees to a classroom of little girls. We learned that if you kissed with a table between you it was a venal sin. If you kiss and there's no table and your bodies touched it was a mortal sin. Who knows what would happen if you crawled on top of the table and got busy. The point is the more hold something as a taboo the more human nature makes you curious.
G21: I see your point.
Vanessa: This society and country is so much like that and they want to tell you what to do. From that stems fetishes and perversionsăI personally like the word "perverse." It means I'm not going straight the way you want me to go. Does sex mean procreation and that's it?Then I might as well be a plant.
The human mind is so vast in its thinking and its quirks that just being human is perverse. Society wants to keep a lid on it. That's when it comes out sideways and that's where you get the real perversion‚the harmful type.
G21: What's your take on all the drama about the President and Monica Lewinsky?
Vanessa: It's so amusing. Why is this the most important story in the world? Why don't they just write, "The president gets a blow job."
It all comes down to the media and money.
Don't treat us like we're stupid. We know there's more important things to do than worry about Clinton's sex life.
G21: Speaking of sex lives, how did you become a columnist on sex advice?
Vanessa: I write a column for Belle magazine on love and sex advice. It's fun. I did a interview for the magazine and the response they got from women was very open and supportive. They came back and asked me if I would do a column. I call myself a "intellectual feminist bimbo" (laughs), not necessarily in that order.
Being a sexual woman and not afraid to exploit my own sexuality is what feminism is really all about. It's not about hating men and hating sex.
G21: How did the website come about? If you go to a search engine and put in "Vanessa Del Rio" you're going to be there for a while. Wasn't there a earlier website?
Vanessa: Yeah, but that one was where I was just lending my name to it. I decided that I wanted to do my own website where I could sell movies and tell stories or whatever else I thought would be interesting. I taught myself how to set up a webpage, reading about HTML and Java and all.
I just decided: fuck it, I'm diving in.
G21: Well, I'm impressed.
But I have to admit that I'm bothered by something on your site: You call yourself a "slut" over and over.
Okay, you had sex on film, but as I talk to you I hear a woman who's intelligent, who has opinions.
Calling yourself a slut seems like a put-down.
There certainly is no shortage of people who will pass judgment on how you've lived your life. Why do it yourself?
Vanessa: My boyfriend had the same problem. I did do things that people consider what a slut would do.
"You were Catholic. You did things against society. You had sex with all those men. You're doing all these nasty things."
It's true. I did do all those things.
But meanwhile while people are telling me that they're titillated in some way.
You can't tell me that by looking at a picture of a genital, a pussy, a dick, a tit, that it does not in someway titillate.
If you somehow feel there's something wrong with that then you feel something's wrong with you.
I like to use the term "slut."
If you notice I use the dictionary definition of the word on my site. If slut means a "wanton, horny, nasty woman" then how can I deny that? Every piece of mail I get tells me that they love me for it. That's why I call myself a "slut goddess."
G21: I can understand that. It's the same philosophy that rappers apply when they take a negative word like "nigger" and change it to "nigga" and use it as a term of endearment.
Vanessa: Right.
There's a part of me that says, "Oh my God" and a part of me that says, "You go girl, I like it."
Because I did it. And I can't deny it and I will not deny it. I will not try to repent for something I found pleasurable and still do.
G21: What's the biggest misconception about Vanessa Del Rio?
Vanessa: That I swing from the rafters having sex 24 hours a day. I'm still looking to roll in some dough and still have fun. I'm a businesswoman and I love every aspect of it.
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