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NEW YORK, NY, USA - Who would have thought that when Ice Cube appeared as a member of the original Los Angeles gangster rappers NWA that he would end up doing such a goofy and utterly cute yet pathetic comedy as "Are We There Yet?" Yet as the hardcore star went from music to film, he's proven to be versatile and [have] broad-ranging skills. He's a grown-up now, and a survivor, not just another disgruntled ghetto youth.
G21: When you made it big, you showed that people can come from something as extreme as the gangster roots, and then grow, and that there's a positive afterlife. Do you feel that's something you've accomplished?
Ice Cube: What I wanted to show is that everybody who comes from the gangster life -- they want what that man in the suburbs wants. Nice family. Nice house. Nice cars. Bills paid. Kids in school. Food on the table. Nothing more.
Nobody's trying to be Scarface out here. Everybody just wants to be comfortable. People always wonder, "You came from all this hard stuff, but now you ain't pumpin' that as much -- that hardcore image." Because now my family's comfortable. I have things that I haven't had. Now I'm speaking for the people who can't speak for themselves.
From my point of view, yeah, I'm not "in the 'hood" no more, doing all that stuff, but I've got people there. I got family there. Most of my roots are there. I can't separate myself from that. But as far as the gangster in the 'hood, the dude that's in the penitentiary, the dope dealer goes? All they want is to be comfortable. Nice house. Family. No more, no less.
That's really what this shows. If you give anybody the chance, they can always make a decent human being out of themselves. It's the people that don't have a chance, that we look down at like they're monsters or they're animals or that they want something different than the rest of us. That they don't want to be like us. That's not true. They want to be just like everybody else.
G21: Do you ever feel you were in the crosshairs, instead of just the spotlight?
Ice Cube: No, never. It's a small price to pay for where I've come from and where I am. It's like, please.
G21: An easy call, right?
Ice Cube: Yeah. I've dealt with a lot harder shit than reporters coming down on me. You know what I mean? That's kind of easy to deal with. I know who I am. I know what I'm about.
G21: When you started out, people felt that NWA were West Coast heirs of Public Enemy -- doing important rap that was saying something real to people. Now a lot of hip-hop has gotten too much into the blingage, and not as much into real culture. What are your thoughts on that?
Ice Cube: What happened was -- Public Enemy, BDP, myself, a little bit Ice-T -- we were heirs to when people wanted to hear these changes. Our plight. Our history. We were learning a lot from the music. And that music was real threatening to the Establishment. So then, here comes Death Row which is pretty much more gangster than knowledge, you know what I mean? The Establishment chose to really promote that and pump that.
I'm not saying they didn't make great records because those were some of the best records made. But they got more love in some of the areas that we couldn't even get into. MTV went open arms with them. But for us, it was a struggle, because they never really wanted our messages to get out there on that level.
It was just a calculated move by people who bring rap to the world -- radio stations, newspapers, magazines, video shows. It was just an effort to pump that, because it really had no substance to it. And that's what's taken over and kind of steamrolled to this bling-era.
But people are always hungry for knowledge, so here come the Roots and the Kanye Wests of the world. Here comes the knowledge back again. It's probably going to take a few years for it to be as widespread as it was, but it's coming back.
G21: Do you feel that sometimes you need to get back to music just to keep your head fresh after you've been doing so much acting?
Ice Cube: It's always fun. You know what I mean? I used to push my career. Try and come out every year with a record.
And then I'm like, "Man, I got seven albums out and I'm like 27, 28." So I say, "Yo, it's time to slow this thing down a little bit and kind of spread it out." And the movies picked up. It's just a thing where I go from one project to the next and really don't think about it as much, as far as, "Damn, I'm going back and forth." Or, "Damn, I need to do a record."
G21: After you've done such heavy music, did you do the comedy to show that you can laugh at yourself and not take yourself too seriously?
Ice Cube: Not really. I've never really taken myself too serious. That's everybody else, listening to the music or whatever.
I've always said what I've felt [and] said what I thought was right, but I've always had a comedic bone.
Take "Friday." If you remember, all this bad shit is happening on this neighborhood. You're dealing with dope smoking, drug dealers, drive-by shooters, and neighborhood crackheads, but it's looked at in a funny tone. It ain't looked at as a "Menace to Society" or "Boys in the 'Hood."
My records have always done that. For every hardcore record I've had, I've had a "Nappy Dug Out." Something that has a little sense of humor to it.
This is just a good role at the right time. "Barbershop" and "Barbershop 2" kind of set the stage for a movie like this because I had usually done R-rated comedies. And "Barbershop" was a PG-13 comedy. And here goes a PG comedy. I'm testing the boundaries. Also I'm doing something for my youngest fans. Out of my whole career, I've never done anything specifically for them. This is the opportunity to do all of that and to show that the music is separate.
I'm not trying to turn into Eddie Murphy and just do kids movies the rest of my career. I'm going to still do a wide variety of movies, as well as do hardcore rap.
G21: Even in your comedies, you have a certain seriousness, a dramatic tone -- do you shoot for that intentionally?
Ice Cube: I just think that's the best way for me to pull it off. I'm not a comedian, so there are things that I wouldn't even try. But when I can make the situation right and make things funny -- organically in a way -- then it just comes off better. For some reason, that's usually the tone of the guys that I?m playing. I'm usually playing the guy that's going through all this stuff. All these crazy people are interacting with a guy who, hopefully, the audience sees as sane.
G21: What drew you to doing "Are We There Yet?"
Ice Cube: Adam Sandler had this project at first and he couldn't do it. So Revolution [the production company] asked if my company would acquire the script and sort of tailor-made it for me. We looked at [the script] and said, yeah, and made our notes on what changes needed to be made, and just started putting it together.
G21: The sports memorabilia that your character, Nick, sells and collects -- does that reflect your own interests?
Ice Cube: I wanted him to be a guy who was into throwback jerseys and sports. I wanted to use that element to maybe grab some of the older kids -- the 12, 13, 14 year-olds -- we kind of added that to make it a little hipper than the average family movie. And there are single guys in their '20s and '30s who can look at that guy in say, "Yeah, I can relate to him."
G21: Whose idea was using the Satchel Paige bobblehead talking with you?
Ice Cube: That was [director] Bryan Levant's. I kind of fought him on that. I thought it would be too corny. Having me talking to a bobblehead [Laughs.]
I didn't want to make something that was so corny that I thought it would take you out of the movie. But Bryan was like, "When you're doing a movie like this, you always want to add a touch of magic, to let the kids know that this is a fantasy, and they can't be jumping in their parents' SUVs and driving off. It's a reminder that this is a movie, and not real life." So we used things like Satchel Paige, so that when grandparents brought their grandkids in, they could say, "I know who that guy is."
G21: You've done many different types of characters, the action stuff and now the kids movie. What's next for Ice Cube?
Ice Cube: I want to do more drama. You know what I mean? Comedy is the path of least resistance for my company right now. People know we can do them. People know they get a good response. People want to make them. Who am I to push up against that?
We'll do that for a minute and then, one day, we'll show what we can do dramatically. There's no rush. I'm only 35. I'm not trying to retire at 38 or nothing like that.
G21: What can we expect to see from your character in "XXX" since [you] replace Vin Diesel in the sequel, "XXX: State of the Union?"
Ice Cube: He's more of a disgruntled soldier. He's in a military prison. He feels that the government has given him the shaft. Samuel L. [Jackson] can't trust the government any more, so he goes outside the box and gets a guy like me who's got a chip -- some revenge to get back. So that's the way the guy is. Totally serious. Not too many laughs and giggles.
G21: Samuel L. Jackson has talked about how he doesn't really like to act with rappers. How did you handle working with him on "XXX?"
Ice Cube: We both just handle d it professionally. I'm there to do a job. He's there to do a job. That's kind of how we approached it. But we had a better rapport because Sam -- from what I understand -- just doesn't really like working with rappers who aren't into the art of filmmaking.
But Sam knows that I'm a filmmaker. I've put together more films from scratch than he has. I've hired more actors than he has. He's probably looking at me in a different light. I've jumpstarted a lot of careers.
He didn't even mention it [his dislike for working with rapper]; he came in and treated me like a fellow actor -- you know what I'm saying? -- somebody that he respects because I respect his work. Who can't respect Sam as an actor? He's still one of my favorite actors; I don't care what he has to say about rap. He's still one of my favorite actors. I just don't agree [with Jackson's opinions about rap music and rappers in film].
I think that if you've got the chops, you should be given a shot, and then the audience determines how long you'll stay.
G21: Any plans for a new "Friday?" The Friday after next Friday?
Ice Cube: "Last Friday?" [Laughs.] It's starting to rekindle. Every time I say no, it starts to rekindle. Now I'm getting calls from cast members, saying, "When are we going to do another one?" I always say that this is the last one, but then it starts to rekindle.
G21: Do you have a script?
Ice Cube: I never start on a script until I know who's coming back, for sure.
G21: So who's coming back?
Ice Cube: All the good characters from the first one to the last one I would want to get back. I know I'm not going to get Chris [Tucker] back, but I'd love to get everybody else back.
G21: Are there plans for a third "Barbershop?"
Ice Cube: No, no plans in the works right now. I think that they're so focused on the TV stuff, that I don't know if they want to do a third one.
G21: You've been in three movies with Nia Long [Cube's co-star in "Are We There Yet?"]. How has that relationship worked out so well?
Ice Cube: It's just good chemistry. She can play any kind of woman. And she brings intelligence, not just a pretty face. She's just solid, man. She's got range. With our movie "Are We There Yet?" she's like the emotional foundation to the movie. She always brings her A-game, no matter how big or small the role.
G21: Who else out there would you like to work with?
Ice Cube: I?d love to work with Denzel [Washington]. Or [Robert] DeNiro, or [Al] Pacino. On something real dramatic, big.
G21: What can you say about "The Extractors?"
Ice Cube: It's in development. It's not really ready to go. But I don't like to talk about movies that aren't ready to go, because it'll jinx them, and they'll never get made.
G21: So who's sports autograph would you like to get?
Ice Cube: Muhammed Ali. Unfortunately, when I met him once I didn't think to ask.
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